The biggest and best feature of this utility sled, as far as grooming is concerned is its exceptional cooling ability. Grooming at night is more effective because it is usually colder and the snow sets faster, also the longer the trail sets with no snowmobiles on it the better. What separates us from Traction was measured with a force gauge in various conditions pulling a groomer. The low speeds require low gearing and low rpm clutch engagements to prevent belt burning. Special devices on the back of the skis have been tried unsuccessfully to spray snow on to the heat exchangers. Unless equipped with an expensive /visabilty reducing cab, the ATV/UTV lacks good heating even after windshields heated handle grips and seats are installed. The machines were the 2006 Ski-doo Skandic, SWT, the 2005 Ski-doo Expedition TUV, the 2007 Yamaha VK Professional, the 2007 Ski-doo Skandic SWT V800, the 2009 Polaris Widetrack IQ, and a 2006 Dual track Alpina Sherpa. The test machine was equipped with an optional radiator fan kit from Ski-doo ($800.00). He has been contracted as a groomer and consultant for several high level ski events throughout the Midwest. ABR has hosted seven Midwest Grooming Clinics,  which attract 50 to 100 groomers from across the country and 8 to 20 vendors of grooming vehicles and grooming implements. Sno-Cat Parts, New Used parts Drags,Sub Compact Snow Groomers Snow tractors Groomers for smaller and lighter units such as ATV, Light Truck, UTV/SXS, Compact Track etc. The TUV was compared with the VK Pro for cooling and the TUV would last 30-40 % longer before the heat alarm came on. The low speed application of grooming requires a transmission with low gearing. The low end torque and engine power is very good with low noise, 61.4 dB drive by and 80.0 dB static, and there is no odor due to the four stroke engine. A full service ski touring center located on over 1100 scenic acres of varied terrain along the Montreal River in Ironwood Michigan. The TUV that was tested had been operated for two seasons and had 3200 miles of grooming without any  issues other than a few overheat alarms. It would have a large radiator and heated floor boards without under tunnel heat exchangers that drop slush on the trail which is picked up by the grooming implements. Trail snowmobiles are a hybrid of performance and touring. The testers compared their vision of the ideal grooming machine to Ski-Doo, Yamaha, Alpina and Polaris machines. Anticipate Your Needs [1.2 MB] And even as an experienced groomer and snowmobile operator, I have found the carburated engine difficult to start in cold and warm environments. We understand that the TUV may not be available for 2008. *Grooming Notes:* Snow has arrived but is a bit wimpy! (Updated daily from December 1 - March 31) Online Trail Report Available Here. 2021 Arctic Cat ZR 9000 Thundercat 137 … ABR tests groomers on their 60 km trail system from mid-November into April. Eight hours a night, close to 120 miles of trail, meet the man behind the machine that helps maintain The Forks Area Trail Network – our snowmobile trail system here in The Forks, Maine. This engine is rumored to have been detuned and designed for the high performance touring sleds. The EFI was mapped/tuned, started well, and had very good low end performance. The seat configuration would be a one up seat with a backrest that would flip down for 2 up capacity. This SWT can be found with additional operator installed nose weights and after market Simmons skis to enhance steering performance. Get to those snow dances, please! The joint project between Arctic Cat and Yamaha resulted in a diminutive, 9.5 hp, trail-legal snowmobile that garnered a lot of attention – and sales – a year ago. There are approximately 80 Sno-Parks designated primarily for snowmobiling. Fuel Economy was measured in various conditions with the majority of the time spent pulling medium sized groomers. Noise, odor and vibration were evaluated during the grooming tests. Please check this report during the season for trail condition reports across the UP! E5299 West Pioneer Road Very dry snow much of the time, in small spurts of 4-8" with an occasional 20-30" snow thrown in there. Why are there reports of overheating at grooming speeds? The front suspension on the Widetrack was up to all the tasks we threw at it with ample amounts of ski pressure to facilitate good steering. Rookie operators will most likely have trouble with this feature. The dual track has always been a favorite because of its wide compaction platform, low gearing, and high traction. The engine did have some flat spots and I question whether it was thoroughly mapped at low speeds for grooming. However, as it continues to snow, it’s important to keep those trails well groomed. Deer Camp Motorcycle Shop Shop Storage Cross Country Skiing Welding Projects Blacksmithing Atv Trail Workshop. A few hard starts, spark plug changes, hitch failure and overheat issues were experienced along with some frustrated shifts from low to reverse. To request a snowmobile trail map email islandparkchamber@gmail.com or tcikaitoga@co.fremont.id.us.. For daily grooming updates follow us on: fcsnowstrails.blogspot.com Click here for a printable snowmobile map - PDF. The best Idaho snowmobiling based on popularity are considered to be Priest Lake, Island Park, McCall, Stanley, and Coeur d'Alene. The machine steers as well as the old Alpine but more importantly, with two skis it backs up for long distances. The ideal grooming snowmobile would have a factory installed heavy duty pintle hitch and a large storage area. Very dry snow much of the time, in small spurts of 4-8" with an occasional 20-30" snow thrown in there. However, the rear suspension was too soft even in at its stiffest setting to facilitate good grooming. Why is there reports of operators sticking enlarged radiators in their "new" sleds as shown above for the 2021 model? Steering was also evaluated on the trails on uphill climbs with curves. The large work platform and running boards created a nice work area for operating the machine and hauling gear. The machine did indicate in the low hard snow, heavy pulling applications that it was getting warm, however, the heat alarm never came on. The machine performed well in all but hard packed, icy conditions at low speeds when it would over heat pulling heavy loads. If possible, choose an alternate route to help improve the quality and durability of the fresh groomed trail. We are fortunate to have Ken Blakey-Shell’s experience grooming snow trails for various uses to give us a primer. 2021 Permit Revenues Fund $3.8M in Pre-Season Grooming Investments (Barrie, ON – August 27, 2020) – Following news about 2021 Snowmobile Trail Permits, the Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs (OFSC) today released the next phase of its pre-season plan to provide the best possible trail riding experience this winter. While this outlet can be used for a work light, it is useless to operate actuators….maybe next year. The Ski-doo Skandic SWT 4-TEC V-800 four stroke came out in 2007, using the V 800 engine that was proven in the Can Am 4-wheelers.This is an electronic fuel injected engine. It debuted in 1995. The machine would also have ducts from the radiator and fan to the operator and windshield area. The typical heat exchanger under the tunnel and floor boards does not provide enough cooling in slow grooming operations on hard surfaces without loose snow present . Professional snowmobile trail grooming: a night in the life! Reverse in the transmission is mandatory. It had an optional pintle hitch that was inadequate like all the other utility machines. Best Idaho Snowmobile Trails Idaho has 19 snowmobiling rides. The 2006 model was tested for a season and logged 800 miles, the 2007 was tested for one season and logged 700 miles. This is a 2 cylinder sequential EFI engine with a tuned muffler, 64.1 dB drive by and 86.3 dB static,  that sounds “Harley like” but is fairly quiet. The machine was run in some of the worst spring conditions, hardpack snow and ice, and warm temperatures, pulling the largest Ginzu grommer offered, 9 feet, and it never once overheated. The ATV/UTV fall short in the areas of compaction of the center of the grooming path but can be a super supplement to grooming with a snowmobile which does not pack the pole plant area. Just completed a second season with the SWT 900 Ace and it has worked very well. UTV’s to groom their “smaller” woodland trails or invested in snocats. Plows,Trail Graders,Brush Cutters,LMC,Sur-Trac Marcel,Gilbert BR Bombi's Terra-Tuckers- Bombardier BR100 BR180 BR 160 The 2009 Midwest Grooming Clinic is scheduled for January 20th and 21st (Tuesday and Wednesday). The single track utility machines have come a long way since 1994. Use the map to find Sno-Park locations in specific regions. In addition to the automotive alternator with plenty of electrical capacity, the machine can be factory ordered with switches  and rear connectors for grooming actuators and work lights. The machine comes with a heavy duty pintle hitch and an optional two inch receiver. Groomed snowmobile trails create a more enjoyable experience for snowmobilers and help extend riding opportunities later in the season. The engine started very well and was tested in -20F conditions. The Best Grooming Machines: Selecting a Snowmobile Face it – the modern snowmobile is not optimally designed to pull a trail-grooming implement. ----I would really question that statement about not working it that hard. The motor was steady at 185 F compared to the SWT V-800 running at well over 230 F. The fuel consumption of the Widetrack was  8.8 mpg with the V-800 coming in with 12.8 mpg. The defending Snow Goer Snowmobile of the Year is back, this year as the smallest sled in the Top 10. Gooseneck pulling an 84” Ginzu. The 24 inch wide track has a low .9 inch profile but offers 4 inches of extra width over other wide track machines. The machine did create more snow dust that would collect on the operator with its large non vented hood. The cooling system consists of an automotive radiator and dual electric fans and heat exchanger floorboards. Steering was measured on a level surface with a weighted rear suspension simulating the groomer. Eric has been skiing and snowmobiling since the age of 10 years old. (Photos courtesy Cross Country Canada) Eric Anderson is working on a review of ATV vehicles with track systems, Advanced Grooming   and a Trail Building and Maintaining  DVD which should be ready next year. If the 69.1 dB drive by and 86.0 dB static noise levels don’t bother you, you will enjoy industry leading cooling system charcteristics. The electric system was able to keep up with the grooming needs. But, in general, it is probably the best machine available for the money. The engine cooling system worked flawlessly over the 1500 miles of grooming. Saved by Bill Stannard. By switching on the lights in the shelter, power should be available 24/7. The snowmobile must pull a 200-300 lb groomer with up to 1500 pounds of pulling resistance due to the groomer teeth or knives,  and  carried snow, while maintaining, traction, steering, and most importantly cooling at very low speeds, typically 4-6 miles per hour. The machine would  have three double reversing polarity, self centering switches mounted conveniently on the left handle bar or left section of the dash to operate the groomer  with 30 amp fuses readily accessible. In the NWT, classic skiing is more common and best suited to the cold temperatures of northern winters. We have tested and groomed with the Alpina Sherpa for four seasons logging over 2,000 kilometers on 3 machines with no major problems pulling the largest groomers available on the market. -Cooling- Cooling has … The latest initiatives are based on the OFSC’s … Voltage  regulators appear to be the weak link in this system. It would have a large radiator and heated floor boards without under tunnel heat exchangers that drop slush on the trail which is picked up by the grooming … 2021 Arctic Cat ZR 9000 Thundercat 137 ARS II w/ ATAC. The Ski-doo Expedition TUV V–1000, was tested with the Rotax V-1000 four stroke with SOHC. Ranked as the #7 snowmobile destination by SnoWest magazine, the Wyoming Range offers riders the opportunity to enjoy plenty of rarefied air along with its 335-mile trail system. The Ski-doo Alpine did a good job of grooming, however, it fell short in the areas of steering , maneuverability, and most importantly operator comfort. The track lug has been increased to 1.25 inches which gives a substantial increase to deep snow traction. Cooling was tested on hard snow condions pulling a medium size groomer on hilly terrain at various ambient temperatures. We found no issues with the tipped rail rear suspension in grooming applications. The dash would be equipped with a fuel and temperature gauge and a tachometer, an odometer and large digital speedometer. He is a licensed mechanical engineer from the automotive industry with several patents in drive train and hydraulic components. The bobbing motion of the rear suspension required constant readjusting of groomer teeth which is tricky and annoying. December 2020. At grooming speeds you are not working it that hard, therefore burning less fuel and less wear and tear. The ideal grooming machine would also come wired with a 6-8 pin receptacle and a switched rear work light since most grooming is done in the dark hours when the skiers are sleeping. If Polaris can get the rear suspension stiffened, this machine will be a very strong contendor for the Trail Groomers. The heated seat and heated floor boards provided operator comfort even in the coldest conditions, (too bad they could not duct the hot air from the radiator up to the windshield and operators area). The low end torque of the 80 hp four stroke was comparable to the V-800. Grooming the TOP A112A in the Laurentian Mountains outside Mattawa Ontario. Ed: One of the main topics at the Global Fatbike Summit happening in Ogden, Utah this weekend, as well as the just concluded Midwest Fatbike Summit in Cable, WI, is the topic of Grooming Trails for Fatbikes. The Ski-doo Skandic SWT 550 fan, the two stroke 550 engine has been very dependable for grooming although it has poor fuel economy and the noise and smell of the two stroke engine. It appears the Skidoo engineers were trying to satisfy the grooming requirements as they installed a three position switch on the left handle grip and a twelve volt cigarette lighter style receptacle on the rear of the machine. The future ideal grooming snowmobile would come with a powerful 4 stroke EFI engine with a low geared transmission. While the machine has the same width tunnel as the SWT 550 fan, it has a wider and taller contoured seat for more comfort. New and Used For sale Low cost snowmobile Club trail groomers Grooming Need parts? Eric  Anderson is the co-owner and operator of ABR Ski Trails and has a passion for grooming equipment. The chore of grooming with a snowmobile is more complex than one would think. It also has the 24 inch wide by 156 inch long track and it has the same suspension as the SWT 550 fan. Download Trail Map. Rick has been grooming ski trails and skiing for the last 7 years. The machine ran relatively hot during testing as indicated by the analog temperature gauge but the temperature alarm never sounded during even the hardest chores (the factory explained the cooling system is designed to run hot for efficient engine performance and clean exhaust emissions). The 4 stroke machine weighs in at 1360 lbs and houses a 1.4 liter EFI automotive Peugot engine. The trails are known for their meticulous grooming, so every ride should be smooth and enjoyable. The Lake Park-based Midnite Riders club has agreed to take over responsibility for the trails in western Becker County, and the Wolf Lake-based Wolf Pack snowmobile club already grooms trails in southeastern Becker County. HP and torque curve of the Expedition 900 looks like what? The Fundamentals of Ski Trail Grooming is a one hour long instructional  DVD, which ABR created on basic grooming and is on sale now for $29.95. This series of Power Point training slides has been produced to accompany Chapters 1 - 6 of Guidelines for Snowmobile Trail Groomer Operator Training - A Resource Guide for Trail Grooming Managers and Equipment Operators which was produced by the International Association of Snowmobile Administrators (IASA) in 2005. The four stroke engine is  carburated. With the ability to groom from 72 inches up to 96 inches wide makes for quite an impressive snow grooming swath. The wide tunnel and low seat do not offer comfort for the long legged operators. Grooming is expensive, so managers and equipment operators must be adaptive to changing needs and conditions to ensure funds and grooming time are best spent efficiently and effectively. We absolutely used it to grind ice (it was a horrible season for fresh snow...as in fresh snow was a rare event!). La belle province is home to snowmobile-friendly landscapes and people. The retail price on this machine is $32,500 and availability is limited. Come and Ride on some of the best snowmobile trails in the state of Wisconsin! Kim Raap 2 Photo 1.2 – Smooth, firm trails created by trail grooming. He has been operating and testing grooming equipment since 1994 when he and his father opened the ABR Ski Trails to the public grooming with an Artic Cat long track and two Ski-doo Alpines. www.abrski.com, Services will be reduced for 2020/2021 see COVID Plans, Measurements were made at ABR Trails by Eric Anderson and an independent testing team and published factory brochures, The Polaris had an exhaust leak accounting for higher noise levels. For a map to the new Caldera Rim Snowshoe Trail: www.ifskiclub.com The cooling systems must either be fan cooled or liquid cooled with a radiator and fan. Bring your friends and family snowmobiling in the Cable Area of Northern Wisconsin, for some of the best trails & snowmobile riding on over 110 miles of groomed trails in the state of Wisconsin, located in Bayfield County. The front suspension is a curved swing arm with a hydraulic shock and the rear suspension has the SUV suspension with twin shocks, hydraulic and gas. Indeed, many of its groomed and ungroomed trails top over … 1 Photo 1.1 – Snowmobile traffic creates rough trails that require trail grooming. Snowmobile Trail Report Updated: December 21, 2020 Upper Peninsula Snowmobile Trails officially open December 1st and are groomed (weather permitting) until March 31st. It did appear that an exhaust gasket would silence the leaky and noisy exhaust before it entered the muffler. While this sled wasn’t tested in all the same conditions as the others its outstanding cooling ability and the venerable IQ platform meant it couldn’t be ignored. Traction requirements are a wide and long track with a medium size lug that is able to be studded for ice. This machine appears to be built with heavy duty work in mind; it houses the Genesis 120 engine which is a four stroke 3 cylinder engine delivering 120 HP! A heavy duty hitch is also a requirement. Grooming 20k of trails in varied terrain. Suspension requirements include a stiff rear suspension that does not squat with the weight of the groomer but delivers adequate ski pressure for steering. Left: Bombardier, Right: Polaris 5 Photo 1.3 – Trail grooming is important to snowmobilers. The electronic dash has 13 alarms, 4 gauges, and 2 computers to keep the operator in tune to the engine and operating systems. Another local organization purchased a 900 WT and used it very sucessfully this year as well. This snowmobile, if you can call it that, is hand built in Vicenza, Italy and has been built since 2002. (The heat alarm was tested and did work.) It housed the same dependable transmissions as the SWT’s but was built on a Yeti Chassis. The groomed trail is suitable for beginner to intermediate riders, however the Kelly Lake trail is for advanced riders. FYI, we average 125" of snow a year, this year is probably 175". The SM 72 is Snow Groomer’s flagship groomer. snowmobile trail grooming challenging. The engine fell short in 2006 with poor cooling and the addition of the two speed gear box may have improved cooling slightly but the machine still overheated in testing. Some of our customers have been using ATV machines with various combinations of tracks and low-pressure tires, but these have This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Recommended (proven) Snowmobile Models for Nordic Grooming. Cooling was an issue however. The ideal grooming machine would have bogie wheels that do not require loose snow for lubrication like the slide systems, and a dash adjustable shock for varying traction and steering depending on snow conditions. You will find directions to snowmobile Sno-Parks and trail reports updated regularly during the winter season. This is a review of the top utility snowmobiles on the market as of March 2007. snowmobile trail grooming may also be performed with a tiller mounted on the rear of a tracked snow cat. The shifter on the Widetrack definitely needed some tweaking which we chalk up to the fact that the prototype just wasnt quite tuned in yet. I completely understand this switch, we have done the same, primarily using a tracked Polaris Ranger to set up our ski trails. The cooling system of this machine has been very reliable but operators in warmer climates and high altitudes have installed after market cylinder head temperature gauges. Very few clubs still use snowmobiles for grooming their trails. 7. The Ideal Grooming Snowmobile. The machine came with a factory spec sheet that included the set up for heavy groomer pulling,(suspension settings, gearing, clutch setting, and ski runners). It has had a few minor changes since 1995, such as an increase in displacement from  499 to 550 cc, and improved voltage regulation and lighting  but basically the machine has remained unchanged for the past decade. However, it takes a more skilled operator to get this machine to steer properly under load. Grooming management must remain flexible to best respond to local variables Here is an honest, non-biased opinion with A LOT of use of the SWT. With one wide track snowmobile groomer left in the fleet small feeder trails and light traffic areas can be maintained with the Arctic Cat Bearcat and 4ft mogul master replica drag. An optional temperature gauge is available. The future ideal grooming snowmobile would come with a powerful 4 stroke EFI engine with a low geared transmission. The telescopic front suspension steered the machine very well in all conditions except deep unpacked powder. Wide ratio clutches have been tried unsuccessfully. They are typically lighter and more nimble than touring machines and are suited to a more aggressive rider who likes to get […] This trail begins on the #2 Custer Draw trail and contunues North to the end of County Road 41 and intersects the trail to Kelly Lake (ungroomed). The 75 HP engine coupled with its two speed low range transmission can creep at the slowest grooming speeds without burning belts. The testing that was done was a combination of objective and subjective assessments. In the last five years, trail grooming implements have had electric actuators as standard equipment, the grooming implement has two to three actuators standard with each actuator drawing 20 to 30 amps and consisting of a reversible twelve volt electric motor. The firmly compacted trail base created by grooming also helps trails withstand heavy snowmobile traffic. Since that time there have been various wide track snowmobiles manufactured and one dual-track snowmobile manufactured in Italy. The simple rear bogie suspension provided very little travel which was perfect for pulling heavy loads and the bogies worked very well in hard snow since they did not require the lubrication of the slides systems. Marc,   Here is response from earlier posts asking the same question. The combination of the catalytic converter,  muffler and dual oxygen sensors created clean exhaust and a quiet operation. We purchased a new Skandic 900 ACE SWT and used it alongside our 2007 V800 SWT this year. The two speed synchromesh transmission has proven very reliable over the past 12 years provided it gets its gear lube changed. Michigan’s more than 6,500 groomed snowmobiling trails are one of the most extensive interconnected snowmobile trail systems in the nation, made even better by the state’s abundant and dependable snow. Yamaha has an EFI 1000 cc engine but it is not intended for this machine in 2008. December 2, 2020. Quebec: The Laurentians. The suspension does not need to be soft for dampening bumps because trail grooming is done on a relatively smooth surface. The front suspension and rear suspension were totally adjustable and provided the best traction steering combination on the market for single wide track machines. The electrical system puts out 40 amps, or approximately 480 watts, and did the electric chores without any issues. ABR sells new and used grooming equipment and used grooming snowmobiles across the country. This was our choice in operator comfort with its comfortable seat, softer suspension, and appeared to be more agile in light grooming applications. 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